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Post by nutrivet on Apr 18, 2011 21:01:22 GMT -5
More in line with the old board with Jeff, Cush and BT and all the guys. I have this situation where I removed an outside porch-cover. The house was built in the 1930's so it was a small 4X5' deal yet built like the house with its tie beams inset into the brickwork. Recently it was rotting away due to a new strain of boring insect to where I made posts to hold it up at the far corners. Then of course some nosey inspecter cites me for that... anyway, and sorry for the long post, I need to remove the origional BX cable which fed the porch lamp. It emerges from an exterior brick and the insulation is crusty/needs replacement. I've disconnected it from the switch and box clamp of that receptical, at other end. The run is small for it goes from the switch, up and over the basement entrance and emerges. Problem is it won't pull. I can push it back into the exterior wall for there is plenty hanging out. I expect they bent a few nails over it along the way. I was wondering if I should try to twist the jacket and try winding it or apply some serious pull to it. Any advise would be welcome  |
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Post by markkw on Apr 19, 2011 12:50:26 GMT -5
Easy one. Tie one end of the BX around the inspector's waist, point your shotgun at him and say, "Run for it!" LOL
Chop it off on either side of the penetration and pull the conductors out out of the sheath. Grab the sheath with pliers/vise grips, twist & pull so it unwarps. If it's too rusted it may keep breaking apart in which case it's going to be a cuss to get it all out - in that case I'd suggest boring a new hole with the hammer drill because sure as duck poop is messy, there will be enough strength left in that steel to jam the bit up if you try to ream that hole out. Option to use the same hole is to drive out whatever's left in the penetration using a rod that's no more than half-diameter of the hole.
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Post by nutrivet on Apr 19, 2011 18:19:55 GMT -5
Thanks mark. I knew u would help. It makes sense to remove the wires from the jacket. I'll try unwinding so maybe they will budge. I like your 1st suggestion. This guy apparently "had his way" with my yard and private areas(of it), Uninvited. So I get all this certified mail and threats about a myriad of things to all be done yesterday, complete with threats. My tax $$ at work.  |
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Post by markkw on Apr 19, 2011 19:34:56 GMT -5
Don't ya just love it? Just imagine the look on their faces when they're standing before their maker trying to explain how much power they "thought" they had ...
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Post by markkw on Apr 22, 2011 8:12:04 GMT -5
Nut, was there not a reply from you here earlier?
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Post by nutrivet on Apr 22, 2011 18:31:25 GMT -5
Yes there was. I deleted it. These strange times where it's raining all the time yet the clock was ticking. Painting, rehangings. What they did to others. I guess I don't want to talk about what actually happens to me until it does.
There seems to be a lapse of hassle about all the things to be done yesterday. I'm a fool to think that they are not plotting during this. Yet I'm not working on aluminum ladder during rain twisting out electrical line nor am I painting (because he noticed peeling paint).
I had a good idea just now......not so good.... being once Passover there could have been Red above my door or another symbol now. CAN'T DO THIS!! My stuff is totally earthly. Any consideration is by earthly people with their view. Their jobs I paid for with my taxes.
I'll deal with this and have produced unistrut and anchors and 80# of mortar to repare and build superstructure to the end of this one thing.
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Post by markkw on Apr 26, 2011 7:53:51 GMT -5
Seriously man, you need to get outta there ... not that it's much better anywhere else but it seems as your gooberment nazi's have taken their assumed power to heart! Thou shalt not be permitted display of any Faith item lest ye violate the freedom "from" religion assumption. LBGT is not only acceptable but promoted yet ye shall be condamned by the hypocrites and ignorant for even daring to have moral standards beyond your self-righteousness. All man will be judged and life is temporary but eternity is forever, I fear many will have a long time to think about the choices they make today.
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Post by nutrivet on Apr 28, 2011 3:29:46 GMT -5
hey Tech4 came back, Gary. Oh dear what great people to be in this mess having worked and offered advise so long. I've figured out part of my situation. No matter how lib commie they are there is a proximity by location which keeps property taxes very high. The only local rag continues to extoll the worth as a mouthpiece to local gov't. It's a done deal.
That is we are asessed and taxed by what they see fit and not by the market or what real estate pros see. So then there are agendae behind compliance.
So what it is they already taxed me up for years and intend to do it again. Somebody said "no way" which influences the tax base of an entire block. Then in normal demrat behavior it is to target me and others who ACTUALLY LIVE HERE FOR YEARS paying those taxes. It is then they goad and threaten the owner to Raise up the property to what they are already taxing.
I'm sure this happens many places. It is particularly cruel when done to the elderly when...
I've been around to see how this works. Inbetween the snowstorms and rainstorms, In between the rolloff dumpsters sitting next to your property. Inbetween skidsteers actually damaging a vehicle on your own property......In between dumptrucks lining the whole streets and there is no parking and multiple damages to street parked vehicles...and more. These cadres come out and threaten the very base of their tax teats. i have grand more to say about this later.
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Post by tech4 on Apr 28, 2011 20:08:13 GMT -5
I replaced a rotted deck on my house several years ago and the inspector came out to see if it was built to code. He said it would not affect my tax evaluation until I got my tax bill. It was up 12,000 dollars. I argued with the board like OJ on trial and lost. Two years later I found a sympathetic tax assessor and had it reduced by $15,000.....  |
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Post by nutrivet on May 1, 2011 0:33:09 GMT -5
Update- not much  Iv'e opened part of the wall above the switch for the BX seemed to be getting caught. Now I've wound and unwound the cable at both ends ( sheath part, expanding and contracting). The wires won't budge and the cable wont pull either. There is no other circuit that off that switch. Must be pinned pretty tight to a stud in the wall or maybe they ran the feed to a hidden box. Yeh that's what they did. I need my metal detector. This is a two switch box and I see all the feeds come from the top. So the fuse feed must go to another enclosure and branch down to the other switch where the common hot wire is going to This switch then back up to that box with common neutrals then out to the porch. More holes and see if i messed up anything.  |
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Post by franz on May 1, 2011 21:50:22 GMT -5
OK, simple question; are the 2 wires connected to the switch coming from a single BX or multiple BX cables?
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Post by nutrivet on May 2, 2011 9:00:29 GMT -5
Ok. Multiple but let me explain that. This sw box has two switches. They are all pwrd from common Hot tied together in the box. There are three cables into the box , one from the fuse, one goes to the porch lamp, one to other wiring pwrd by same fuse.
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Post by markkw on May 2, 2011 11:01:27 GMT -5
That sucks trying to find whatever someone else hid inside a wall! I'm all for exposed uni-strut & conduit!
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Post by franz on May 2, 2011 11:08:35 GMT -5
Ok. Multiple but let me explain that. This sw box has two switches. They are all pwrd from common Hot tied together in the box. There are three cables into the box , one from the fuse, one goes to the porch lamp, one to other wiring pwrd by same fuse. OK, that description tells us all we need know about the original wiring, as well as what is necessary to replace it. My next question becomes why the hell do you need to remove the old BX? Is it because of some need to torture yourself or are you residing in some Communist compound where old BX must be turned in to buy new romex? I see no need to go beyond lopping the original wire off at both ends and abandoning it in place. |
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Post by nutrivet on May 2, 2011 13:11:13 GMT -5
Yes! To refresh, three cables come to the box. One actually is at the bottom and logically that's from the basement fuse. The dammed cable from the switch has to direct out the wall for it's the Only it is there for. EXCEPT some 73 years ago the electrician hammerstapled it to the stud pretty close to the box, normal fashion. Hell he may have done it six times for all I know. I just wanted to pull some UF thru the same passage without destroying the wall.
This whole thing was stupid anyway. Freakin boring bees had eaten into the angled 2X4 braces under it so I put a new 2X4 at each corner .. If I'd painted the posts, they woulda looked like they belonged there. BUT it was winter and 2-3 feet of snow sitting on it and tree limbs falling so it seemed a good idea. Then the snow went away and the inspecter arose to cite the unsafe temporary bracing. I found later by trying to remove this thing, I could have lifted engines out with it. There was no way of knowing excactly how they did it until I started taking it apart but then I was committed. Previously cited for "nonfunctional shutters" it was they were that plastic crap nailed to the face and some of the slats were broken (three).
He told me Removal was the remedy! I told him I wouldn't replace them with anything Nonfunctional.
In this mindset did I find that the origional had 2X6 s set into the brickwork 5" and other points of attachment which had gotten loose over time. I need to fish thru this passage.
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Iv'e opened part of the wall above the switch for the BX seemed to be getting caught. Now I've wound and unwound the cable at both ends ( sheath part, expanding and contracting). The wires won't budge and the cable wont pull either. There is no other circuit that off that switch. Must be pinned pretty tight to a stud in the wall or maybe they ran the feed to a hidden box. Yeh that's what they did. I need my metal detector. This is a two switch box and I see all the feeds come from the top. So the fuse feed must go to another enclosure and branch down to the other switch where the common hot wire is going to This switch then back up to that box with common neutrals then out to the porch. More holes and see if i messed up anything. 